This page is devoted to support about this site Please see Jsp Wiki Support for support about the jspwiki engine.

-- JDuprez N.B.: this is only a tentative page, useful contents will have to be added with time...

This site's Charter#


AnswerMe expected content: What should go or not into

Tentative content:

  • JSPWiki engine and its applications
  • General Wiki philosophy information/discussion?
  • General Development topics (Patterns, Java/JSP,...)
    • --JDuprez: I don't think so. Sure Java and Patterns stuff is not completely foreign to people interested in jspWiki usage and development, but numerous sites, including Wikis, already exist, and are more closely updated and documented, and draw more audience. Better link to them from some bridge page, or include interwiki links. Why bother fixing the broken definition of, since this topic is hardly a concern for jspWiki usage? Actually I eventually edited this page to what I think would benefit to a MereMortal at least...

Relationship with official documentation#

AnswerMe How to comment or question pages ending up in the official documentation without harming them.

Editorial Policy#

AnswerMe Janne, how do you manage to, e.g., include only relevant documentation in the documentation? Do you scan and review all official pages before releasing them in the bundle?

I copy them off the official documentation wiki...

Restricted areas#

Some pages on this site expose restricted access. Mostky for site administration puprose, related to the way the engine deals with some configuration options. For example:

  • SpamFilterWordList contains words used to reject spam edits. For obvious reasons the site mainteners won't let the general public edit this page.
    • However, any well-known person gets access; just ask JanneJalkanen.
  • RejectedMessage contains the text of the message displayed when the engine refuses an edit. Again only admins will edit it (--JDuprez but why can't we view it?).
    • I already put view permission on it.
  • --JDuprez: the About page is locked for viewing, it isn't clear to me why. I expected to find there the site's charter and informatyion about the engine and platform running it...
    • Oops :). I'll fix it.


AnswerMe expected content: what are good posting practices, beyond Wiki Etiquette, esp. related to topics adressed, external links, identity exposition,...

Also see WikiGardener.

Users Management#

To be completed

How to create an account#

There isn't a full-fledged notion of user account, but anyone who contributes is encouraged to identify himself, and create a home page, and either register in the User List or sign in the Guest Book.

  • There is. You can't assert yourself as anyone else, except in name. You won't get permissions or anything.

Using your "account"#

Indeed there isn't anything preventing you from using anyone else's name (you can't login but you can (LinkMe:assert) youself as someone else. Of course, we and the Wiki Etiquette rely that you won't.

You can sign you contributions with a link to your page (like this: --JeromeDuprez). Even if you don't, as soon as you have logged in or are asserted, the history management will mark your changes under your name, in individual page history or in RecentChanges. That shouldn't refrain you from posting non-anonymously, as soon as you abide by the Wiki Etiquette and the site's charter, all regulars here will be friendly whatever you add.

How to reset/receive one's password#

-- JérômeDuprez Janne or whoever, I am so ashamed, but I forgot my password, I had to create an alias to log in again, is there something you can do about it?

Fighting Garbage#

Three topics to discuss here:

  • How to refactor and reorganize contents
  • Policy to ask question without adding noise to the pages
  • Fighting spam

Fighting Spam#

The jspwiki engine (and this site) includes a Spam Filter, based on keywords, however on the long run spammer always bypass such preventions.

This site also relies on WikiGardeners to edit out mischieved entries. But this is manual and tiresome even to the best-intended ones.

Isn't there some techniques to make spamming edits more difficult ?#

Like, adding a field in the edit form requiring to enter text melted in a blended image, or asking today's date, or whatever. Nothing that actually prevent spamming, but at least renders it harder, without hampering too much well-intended edits.

Because JSPWiki is largely used within organizations, and rarely outside firewalls, captchas are quite difficult to do effectively. In addition, as far as I can tell, all spammers on are actually human beings (working on minimum wage), who add spam manually. Captchas and other things are directed against bots. --JanneJalkanen

Why not require login to edit pages on this site?#

Granted, this will not prevent human spammers, but will just render their work a bit more painful. OK it's not so difficult to create a new account each time, but it's one more hassle to the mischieves. Advertisement Spam is ruled by economics: it's a matter of how cheap it is to spam sites/emails compared to how much it gives back. The return on investment is probably already very low on this site, where most of the audience is already fairly familiar with internet's gems and traps. Making spam is little less cheap may ruin advertisement spam economic balance.

All that based on the assumption that well-intended visitors will not find it too much of a hassle to login once a day (this is a fairly common practice on forum boards, mailing lists, and even usenet).

As a collateral advantage, forcing login to edit will make edits less anonymous, which I deem is a good thing (and the well-intended may still register under a fake name to post anonymously).

See other pages related to this site on Category Jsp Site.

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